16
Nov
2011

Issac Ball Engines

Not quite sure which section to post all this information in but I'll post it in General Discussions.

I took the kids to see Blackpool Illuminations the other week and whilst in the area we visited Fylde Country Life Museum / Farmer Parrs Animal World at Fleetwood which is currently home to Burrell Roller 3305, a former Issac Ball engine which was know as "Big John" when owned by them.

The engine is rather crammed in with other stuff but I took quite a few pictures of it, I don't think it has been out and in steam for some years:

The museum also houses a sizeable collection of Issac Ball information and photographs (Well worth a visit if you are in the area and plenty else to look at).

Interestingly they have an extensive list of engines owned by the company.

Surviving Engines

Aveling & Porter 7583, 10 ton single cylinder roller built in 1912. Purchased secondhand from Preesall UDC and went into preservation in 1974.

 

Burrell 2112, 6NHP SCC Devonshire traction engine "Old Lytham". Bought by Issac Ball in July 1898 and spent all of it working life with them. Sold into preservation in 1960.

Burrell 2512, 6NHP SCC Devonshire traction engine "De Wet". Purchased new in August 1902. Sold into preservation in 1965.

Burrell 2513, 6NHP SCC Devonshire traction engine "General Buller". Both 2512 & 2513 were on show at Issac Ball's stand at the 1902 Preston Guild.

Burrell 2626, 6NHP SCC convertible traction engine "Delarey". Bought new in 1903 and finally sold into preservation in 1971.

Burrell 2642, 12 ton SCC roller built in 1904 and purchase by Issac Ball from John Ball. Sold into preservation in 1968.

Burrell 2649, 12 ton SCC class B roller built in 1904. Sold new to John Ball and latter purchased by Issac Ball.

Burrell 2706, 6NHP SCC Devonshire traction engine "Admiral Togo". Went into preservation in 1960.

Burrell 3218, 7NHP SCC traction engine. Went to Issac Ball secondhand and operated by John Ball out of his Forton Yard. Sold into preservation in 1958.

Burrell 3220, SCC roller bought new in 1910. Sold into preservation in 1974 and converted to a showman's engine.

Burrell 3297, 6NHP compound traction engine known as Mauretania purchased new in 1911. Sold into preservation in 1958.

Burrell 3305, SCC roller "Big John". Purchased new in 1911 and sold into preservation in 1964.

Burrell 3388, 12 ton SCC roller. Purchased in 1912 and sold into preservation in 1968.

Burrell 3398, 5NHP compound convertible traction engine sold in 1912 to Fylde RDC and used as a roller. Purchased by Issac Ball and used as a traction engine for threshing. Sold into preservation in 1971.

Burrell 3484, 10 ton single roller. Bought new in 1913 and sold into preservation in 1962.

Burrell 3618, Gold Medal Tractor "Scout" built in 1914 and purchased second hand, sold into preservation in the 1960's.

Burrell 3808, Gold Medal Tractor built in 1919 "Laddie". Purchase in 1944 and converted to a roller, sold into preservation in 1969 and restored as a tractor.

Burrell 3862, Gold Medal Tractor built in 1921 "Little Dorothy". Purchased secondhand and converted to a roller by Issac Ball, sold into preservation in 1969 and restored as a tractor.

Burrell 3929, 10 ton single roller. Bought new in 1921 and sold into preservation in 1968.

Mann 881, compound steam cart. Purchased secondhand from Fylde RDC and used as a roller. Sold into preservation in the 1960's.

Marshall 23885, 6NHP single traction engine. Built in 1893 and purchased by Issac Ball in September 1894. The oldest Ball engine to survive and the last Marshall bought by Balls. Went into preservation in the 1970's.

Fowler 12905, 10 ton compound roller purchased in the 1930's from John Ball of Forton. Built as a road loco to Lewis Baldock of Typler Hill Kent, passing to John Ball via an owner in the North Riding of Yorkshire before being converted to a roller. Sold into preservation in the early 1960's and now converted to a showmans engine.

Garrett 30959, 5 ton compound tractor built in 1912. Purchased by Issac Ball in 1944 and converted to a roller. Sold into preservation in the 1960's and restored as a tractor.

Garrett 33459, 5 ton compound tractor built in 1919. Purchased in 1944 from Lancashire County Council. Sold into preservation in 1956.

Ruston & Hornsby 52573, 5 ton convertible tractor built in 1918. Purchased in 1932 from an owner in the Isle of Man. Went into preservation in 1964.

Scrapped Engines

List of engines once owned by the company but have since been scrapped.

Aveling & Porter 3616, 15 ton compound roller built in 1895. Purchased from Chorley Corporation.

Aveling & Porter 3681, 12 ton compound roller built in 1896 and purchased in 1943 from Longridge RDC, sold in 1958 but did not make it into preservation.

Aveling & Porter 5438, 15 ton compound roller built in 1904 and purchased secondhand from Lancashire County Council.

Aveling & Porter 10 ton roller, number unknown. Purchased in 1929 and scrapped in 1940.

Burrell 915, 8NHP single traction engine. Purchased in 1885 from W. Grime of Preston, sold on to W. Hailstone, Yardwell in Northamptonshire.

Burrell 1527, 7NHP single traction engine. New to Issac & John Ball in 1891, had been sold by 1907.

Burrell 1655, 8NHP SCC Showmans engine built in 1892. Bought in 1919 from Connelly Bros of Blackpool. Rebuilt in 1920 as a single cylinder engine and later sold, scrapped in 1935.

Burrell 1715, 6NHP single traction engine built in 1893. Purchased from J.J. Daggers of Blackpool circa 1917 and sold on in 1922.

Burrell 2537, 8NHP compound road locomotive built in 1902. Bought in 1916 from Abbot & Barber of Norwich and was eventually sold to Connelly Bros of Blackpool.

Burrell 3128, 10 ton SCC roller bought new in 1909.

Burrell 3841, 7NHP single traction engine built in 1920 and bought secondhand from H. Simpson of Rainford nr St. Helens.

Fowler 7456, single roller purchased second hand in the 1930's.

Marshall 6984, 6NHP single traction engine. Purchased in 1891 from Rimmer & Higson of Walsall.

Marshall 17718, 6NHP single traction engine. Built in 1889 for the Birmingham show where it was bought by J. Johnson. Sold to Issac Ball in 1921.

Marshall 18633, 8NHP single traction engine. New to Issac & John Ball in 1891, had been sold by 1921.

Marshall 19701, 8NHP single traction engine. New to Issac & John Ball in August 1881.

Marshall 21049, 6NHP single traction engine. New to Issac & John Ball in 1892. When John Ball set up in business in Forton, Lancashire the engine was transferred to him.

McLaren 159, 6NHP single traction engine built in 1883. Bought from W. Ormorod of Milnthorpe and later resold.

McLaren 192, 8NHP single traction engine built in 1864 and purchased from J.Johnson of Wigan around 1920.

Issac Ball Engine Photographs

There is also a big collection of photographs of Issac Ball engines taken at various points in the firms history, here are a selection.

Burrell 1527 thrashing in the early 1900's:

Burrell 1527 thrashing at Grange Farm, Treales in the 1890's:

Burrell 2512, De Wet threshing:

Burrell Roller 2626 "Delarey" - Driving Billy Singleton and crew after a day road rolling:

Burrell 2706, Admiral Togo on the road with crew:

Burrell Roller 3305 and crew working at Carlton:

Burrell 3305, called "Big John" when owned by Ball's:

Burrell Roller 3388:

Marshall 23885 hay bailing during World War 1:

General Buller and crew tar spraying:

Little Dorothy and crew - road rolling:

Mann 881 after accident on the East Lancashire Road:

Issac on his inspection rounds driving Ford Model T:

Unidentified Issac Ball roller involved in accident at Lango nr Blackburn:

Yard at Wharles with line up of rollers:

Burrell 3618, Scout is prepared for sale in the 1960's:

Issac Ball's staff in the yard in the 1930's. L to R, Thomas Hall, Tom Ball, John Ball and Jack Fenton:

Issac Ball's yard in the 1890's. L to R, Issac, son William & Jack Fenton:

Another view of Yard at Wharles in the 1950's:


Burrell 3297, Mauretania

The story goes that Issac Ball's son was an apprentice at the St Nicolas Works and helped to assemble Burrell 3297 "Mauretania" before it was delivered new in 1911. The engine seems to have been very much prized within the company and there seems to be far more pictures of this engine than any other Issac Ball one in existence.

Mauretania threshing when brand new in 1911 at Yew Tree Farm. Peter Ball stands next to the rear wheel of the engine:

Mauretania threshing at Thompson's Farm, again Peter Ball in the foreground:

 

3297 tar spraying, L to R: Tom Ball, Unknown, Jack Rawstrone, & Sammy Cardwell:

Mauretania threshing at Yew Tree Farm:

And lastly two pictures which have been dung out of the engines last public appearance at the 2000 Great Dorset Steam Fair, Burrell Special year.

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Alan Stevens. alan.june@btopenworld.com
15/12/2014 - 23:21 #

Hi David I would juat like to point out that Burrell engine no 2112 Old Lytham is a sc and not as stated scc devenshire I owned this engine from 1989 to 2008.as i think you already know.
Best regards Alan Stevens.


Alan stevens reading.
08/11/2016 - 19:09 #

Hi David just come across the Isaacs ball photos who was the Alan Stevens who owned Burrell 2112 old Lytham.


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